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debate marks another high-stakes moment in the campaign. the romney-ryan team is hoping to hang on to its new momentum, while the obama-biden camp is trying to win it back. that left all of the pressure on the number two's today, as the hours counted down. the candidates were sounding upbeat, ahead of their face-off at centre college in danville, kentucky. vice president joe biden departed his home state of delaware today for the debate. >> i'm looking forward to it. >> woodruff: the republican vice presidential nominee, wisconsin congressman paul ryan, arrived yesterday. >> feel good about it. >> woodruff: but the public show of confidence belied the tension, as several new national polls show ryan's running mate, governor romney, with a slight lead, though within the margin of error. that made what happens on the stage tonight, even more critical. president obama called his vice president to wish him luck today, and voiced support for his man last night, in an interview on abc news. >> i think joe just needs to be joe. >> woodruff: and mitt romney played up ryan's chances, at a wednesd
is to tie governor mitt romney -- sorry, tie governor romney to the ryan budget. and as one top democrat put it to me, the idea is to make the case that romney/ryan in electing that ticket means americans would be electing the intellectual leader of the house republicans, as one person put it, that paul ryan is the intellectual leader of the house republicans and he should not be able tonight to duck from any specifics. so, again, we will hear that word, specifics. and look for the vice president to try to get paul ryan to talk about budget details in this debate tonight, wolf. >> jessica, has the vice president done his tour of the actual debate hall yet? >> reporter: he has. he did that tour a little earlier today before 2:00 p.m. he sat in the chair. he looked at the monitor where you get your time cues. and i'm told all that went smoothly. he also before he boarded the plane today leaving from delaware he talked to reporters and he was asked what is his strategy. take a listen to what he said. >> i'm looking forward to it. nice of you guys to be here. are you on the plane with us? all ri
-- [laughter] [all talking at once.] chris: bottom line. let me ask you about the romney-ryan ticket. did they establish themselves? did they pass the threshold of being presidential enough? >> yes. >> yes, i think association yes, definitely. >> i join the chorus. chris: this weekend marks the 50th anniversary of the cuban missile cry sifments president john f. kennedy and khrushchev faced each other over 13 days and much of that time they faced down the hawks on both sides, with spy plane photos showing the russians assem bling missiles in cuba capable of hitting new york, and the top advisors, including the chief of staff of the air force to authorize immediate air strikes before the missiles could be armed by the soviets. kennedy had to weigh the hawks' advice against the reality that no air strike could be 100% effective. and the possibilities that russian retaliation could target berlin and thereby trigger an all-out nuke yar war, as robert kennedy wrote, "the final list of the cuban missile crisis is the importance of placing ourselves in the other country's shoes." president kenne
more troubling by the day. they first blamed the youtube video. now they're trying to blame the romney/ryan ticket for making this an issue. >> we weren't told they wanted more security. we did not know they wanted more security again. and, by the way, at the time, we were told exactly -- we said exactly what the intelligence community told us, that they knew. >> jessica, this is an issue that the white house and the campaign are going to have to deal with now through november and beyond. and a lot of people were paying attention to what joe biden had to say and many people said, you know what? he didn't really score so well there. >> reporter: well, on that case, yeah, he seemed to put the blame on the intelligence community quite squarely. he did not seem uncertain of himself. so he had a clear answer. they were clearly ready for it. but this is definitely not a strong suit for the white house or the campaign. and it is something of a problem. but i point no doubt -- i point out it's not really a problem for the administration or the white house as it is for the political campaign, how th
the romney-ryan ticket for making this an issue. >> we weren't told they wanted more security. we did not know they wanted more security again. >> so joining me now with their take on all of this, ben smith is the editor in chief of the content website buzz feed and then to his right in san francisco is cnn contributor and anchor of "real news," amy holmes. let me start with you, ben since you're sitting right beside me. that was a big issue and this has been a contentious debate and the white house has been taking it on the chin over what happened in libya, and it seemed to some that either the vice president wasn't sure of his semantics when he said we didn't know they needed more security or it seemed to others he knew that the white house didn't have that information right away, but it's all about the optics. how did they come off last night on this very critical foreign policy issue. >> that struck me as biden's worst moment, and i don't know if joe biden personally knew about barackbama, and there had been a hearing the previous day which was very clear that the state department
romney pays in his income tax. >> reporter: before the debate, cnn was told paul ryan's team anticipated biden to be aggressive where the president was not especially on the infamous 47%. >> romney is a good man. with respect to that quote, i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. >> i always say what i mean. and so does romney. >> biden's recovery plan for a demoralized dechl democratic base was not just in what he said, but what he did. >> in spite of their opposition. >> oh, god. biden jumped in constantly. >> that didn't happen. >> nobody is -- >> mr. vice president. >> the president was slammed for nodding as romney spoke. >> biden used the split screen to give a running commentary of disapproval with his facial expressions. >> ryan had a zinger ready for all that, too. >> i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost ground, but i think people would be better served if we don't keep interrupting each other. >> for 90 minutes voters saw two dramatically different visions. >> for the economy. >> the last
as mr. romney promises he would. he drove that point home. paul ryan on the campaign trail in ohio as well today. the romney-ryan ticket has been spending more time in ohio than in the country. here is a little bit from governor romney at his last event. thehis president on friday the administration was to put out hasanswer to the question chas china manipulated their currency or not. they were supposed to designate that on friday. they said we will not do that. we will wait until after the election to do that. seven times so far they passed the buck on that. i'm not going to pass that off. on day one i will label china a currency manipulator and get serious about making sure that people don't cheat when it comes to trade. >> reporter: the obama administration asserted that doing such tough crackdowns on china could lead to a trade war of the fastest growing economy in the word and they said that mr. romney hasn't been entirely pure when it comes to doing business with china himself in his private life and private business experience. the romney campaign says it is all excuses and
have brought up the nuns on the bus -- >> yeah, and show the rift between romney and ryan. but paul ryan said exactly what romney said. he does support abortion in cases of rape and incest. now paul ryan wants to repeal roe v. wade but still allow abortion cases of rape and incest. >> stephanie: exactly. >> and biden owned it when he said they were sending afghan troops and not american troops. laughing at your own lies is okay. laughing at the other guys' guys is rude. >> stephanie: yeah, and he just sort of disembowled this whole tax plan thing. he sounded like an eight year old, you can cut taxes by 20% -- >> sanit a cartoon once. >> stephanie: and biden is like not mathematically possible. >> and he's like you can -- biden is like it has never been done. >> no society has ever done what they are trying to do. the president is capable of this voice, but boy joe biden did a great job. >> stephanie: joe biden last night. >> when governor romney was asked about it he said we have to keep these sang -- sanctions. do you want to go to war? >> we want to prevent wa
of people is romney/ryan. >> signs are always in the perfect position for the television cameras or still photographers to pick them up. >> because of how cameras work, we have something here like 40, 50-foot banners cover buildings and get in a tight shot. >> it's the first thing he walks past that people say as he makes the pivot toward the stage. >> what difference does it make? >> visuals matter so much. campaigns come down to photography. campaigns need light and sound. >> ladies and gentlemen, please welcome the next president of the united states! >> keep it up, keep it up. >> now kill it, kill it. >> if we fail, the message stays here with 2,000 or 3,000 people in cleveland, ohio. the goal is to make sure it translates to as many folks as possible. >> ritter monitors the events as they happen. >> hey, will, you're live on all the cables. can i get more hand signs to that crowd behind the gov? >> setting up one event may take weeks and yet -- >> it may last ten minutes. >> then they do it again. 1:00, 2:00 in the morning, we'll do it again. it heads to the next truck and it heads t
. the debates should not be that important. it is their policies. romney and ryan's policies will destroy the middle class. host: what do you want to hear from vice president joe biden tonight to the congressman? caller: i want him to hold romney and ryan to their policies. that is what matters. that is what will destroy the middle class. they are changing their policies and fooling a lot of people. host: how did you see the first presidential debate and president obama's performance? caller: president obama admits that he did not perform well. what they have to do from now on is make the republican candidates hold to their policies and not let them get away with saying anything. host: people are saying the pressure is on vice president joe biden, that he needs to make up for president obama's performance. caller: i don't agree. he needs to put their policies against romney and ryan. host: let's hear from james in missouri, an independent. everybody wants your vote. what do you think? caller: vice-president biden need to bring a calculator to the debate so that paul ryan can show us his b
politics. in wisconsin that is where paul ryan is from, mitt romney's running mate. that is only a 2-point race in wisconsin. you have to remember, this is state where back in june there was recall election against scott walker. he won the race. he demoralized the democrats. a lot of activists were saying because president obama didn't come strong in favor of the democratic candidate, it demoralized a lot of democrats there. turnout could be very important. if the democratic turnout is not high, you might see mitt romney win that state. >> patti ann: meanwhile, florida where he is romney is enjoying a 2% advantage. we have david plouffe saying, we are going to get the senior citizens and hispanics. we are going to get florida? >> it's a crucial state for romney to win, one of two of most crucial states, florida and ohio. there is another poll out, tampa bay times poll that shows romney is up by 7. obama campaign disputes the poll that the hispanic voters are not as close as that poll shows. that is pretty significant lead in florida with rom up 7. he certainly as the momentum. that would b
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at it, make sure the angles are right. >> behind that group of peoe is romney/ryan. >> signs are always in the perfect position for the television cameras or still photographers to pick them up. >> because of how ceras work, we have something here like 40, 50-foot banners cover buildings and get in a tight shot. >> it's the first thing he walks past that people say as he makes the pivot toward the stage. >> what difference does it make? >> visuals matter so much. campaigns come down to photography. campaigns ed light and sound. >> ladies and gentlemen, please welcome the next president of the united states! >> keep it up, keep it up. >> now kill it, kill it. >> if we fail, the message stays here with 2,000 or 3,000 people in cleveland, ohio. the goal is to make sure it translates to as man folks as possible. >> ritter monitors the events as they happen. >> hey, will, you're live on all the cables. can i get more hand signs to that crowd behind the gov? >> setting up one event may take weeks and yet -- >> it may last ten minutes. >> then they do it again. 1:00, 2:00 in the morning, we'll
, that is why they said that the romney-ryan tax plan would in fact raise taxes on middle-class families with a child an average of $2,000 a year. $2,000 a year. and by the way, every model looked at it from the so-called -- the american enterprise institute -- they say the same thing. taxes will have to be raised on the middle-class if they succeed with the tax cut. folks, it is time lift the burden off the middle class, not double down on the great recession that hit them. [applause] as a consequence of the great recession, middle-class families lost $16 trillion in wolf appeared mostly in equity in their homes. they saw them evaporate and their pension plans. it is time for everyone to chip been come including the wealthy. as i said last night, we should not be surprised at their continued opposition to everyone chipping in. these other folks to talk about 47% of the american people being unwilling to take [take [booing] and by the way, the congressman being unwilling to take responsibility. [booing] and by the way, the congressmen said they are takers. these people are like my mom an
, comparing with that of romney and ryan. steve. >> so romney and ryan do have somewhat different plans. we talked a lot in the debate last week about taxes. this is the spending side of the equation. to kind of lay out apropos conversations we had earlier in the show about what ryan and romney each believe about spending, let's start with kind of an overview of where the three people would like to bring spending over the next ten years. the 20-year historical average is at about 21%,ed red line that you see across there. obama would like to have spending end up at 23%. romney and ryan both want it down at 20%. so there's a clear difference, and they all agree on where it should go. what gets interesting is as you dig into the detail of what gets cut, and you'll see some very, i think, fascinating differences among these guys. so on social security, as you heard president obama say in the last debate, the three guys are actually in the same place. they want to spend the same amount on social security in the next ten years. when you get to medicare, romney and ryan are in the same place, but
everybody to do less well than they should. so i think now mitt romney and paul ryan are starting to pick up. host: what kind of ground game do you need to pick up ohio? guest: it is tougher for republicans because our vote is scattered in the rural counties, northwest ohio, eastern ohio now becoming more republican. it used to be more democratic. the democratic vote is concentrated in the northeast, i hope the county, in the cities of columbus and cincinnati. so they have an easier time. but led by the republican national committee, the ground game is very good this year. as far as gopac is concerned, we support state and local candidates. we're targeting state and local candidates in swing districts to turn out the votes from the bottom up, not the top down. host: explain that a little bit more. guest: we support the next generation of republicans, and these are republicans running primarily at the state and legislative level. we look for individuals that have leadership capabilities who someday might be speaker of the house or who would run for congress or senate sunday. those of the peop
media attention to do the numbers on the romney/ryan budget. you're looking at billions of dollars and less in investments in the states. about $4.5 billion less a year in ohio and in virginia alone. they're going to have to go out to constituents and explain why they're raising taxes or cutting benefits. huge implications for state and local budgets based on what's decided this year. and that's often what really hits the kitchen table more. >> i see you voted today. >> i did vote in virginia today. >> who did you vote for? that's the question. >> for president obama and for governor kaye. >> i'll take a more apolitical attack. bud selig and the powers that be in major league baseball. we had the debut of the one-game wild card playoff. baseball added an extra wild card this year. the very first game, the braves versus the cardinals, ended up being decided by a blown umpire's call in the eighth inning. and fans were throwing garbage on the field and it was a lousy error-ridden game to begin with. bud selig, this is a sign from the baseball gods, the one-game two wild card playoff i
to want to really frame a negative message against romney and ryan, and pick up where the president didn't do that well last week, or didn't mention at all, thinking of issues like the auto ballot, social security, the ryan proposal on that. the medicare issue, the 47% comment that romney made and people were stunned that obama didn't mention that last week. and, of course, romney's income taxes and how he made his money at bain consulting. those are all issues i think we will hear from joe biden on. and it is very different than what biden's pass was four years ago, steve, as you recall facing sarah palin. the biggest challenge been for biden was don't patronize sarah palin, don't bully sarah palin certainly, try to a quarter to a certain degree of respect. i think this is a different time, and paul ryan is a different opponent. >> there's been what some are calling the rebuttal as both congressman paul ryan, republican vice president to nominate and vice president biden try to set expectations for the debate on thursday. let me share with you will paul ryan said on the fox news channel
to -- american peel want to standup people. so far the romney and ryan people have not been willing to stand up for the things that they have been espousing a long time. i think there's more pressure on paul ryan than vice president ryan. >> we will be watching your state tomorrow. thanks so much for coming on the program. >> thank you. >> let me bring susan back. you tweeted earlier today the vp debates usually don't matter. but is this one different? >> i think it is a little different. do i. you know, traditionally we pay a lot of attention to the debates. lloyd bentsen putting down dan quayle and became inaugurated as vice president that january. it was dan quayle. this time maybe a little different because this election so close. so newly close. because we have got what i have been calling momentum politics, momentum is on the republican side. can joe biden turn that around in the debate and set a better stage for the second presidential debate that we have next week in new york? >> momentum is so important. i think that -- you know, besides the fact you have two debaters who are both real
week. no doubt about that. but again, i think clearly governor romney got a bounce out of last week's debate. i think what will sharpen the focus of the american people tomorrow night, we will see joe biden talk about the devastating dimensions of the rather/ryan budget proposals. and i think that over the next debate presidential debate when we talk about foreign policy, the american people will get a much clearer view of who they want leading this country and international affairs. it is not mitt romney who has no clue what's going on around the world. yeah, i'm worried. i'm anxious now. i think things will get better. >> a little bit anxious or maybe a little more than that? >> just a little bit anxious. i think it is much too early to panic. >> well, let me ask you about something because you are on the budget committee and i want to go back to the vice presidential debate. there is a report in "the new york times" this morning about the so-called fiscal cliff that -- it may actually be more slow, economists say that the effect of the tax cuts inspiring would be a powerful but g
in the shows. we will talk to experts on that debate performance. >> meanwhile mitt romney and paul ryan both in the all important swing state of ohio today. but president obama off the trail. he is hunkering down in virginia preparing for round 26 the debates. hoping to avoid another bad performance against romney. peter doocy live in d.c. with more. looking ahead to this town hall on tuesday. should be fun. >> it should be fun. and, dave, president obama admitted this week he had a bad night at the first debate and the general consensus was that he lost round one. but round 2 is on tuesday night and the president is taking steps to make sure he improves later on this afternoon. is he going to fly on down to williamsburg, virginia, about 150 miles away from the white house to get ready for that town hall style debate. is he going to be hidden from the public eye. he doesn't have any scheduled rallies or events today. 's not like he is finished campaigning because last night he did grab dinner are some contest winners in d.c. the pictures of that dinner were blasted out online last night. as
romney and paul ryan crisscrossing the important buckeye state that has chosen the past 12 presidents. will ohio though, buy the message they're selling? take a closer look. >> clayton: plus, this isn't something you see every day. police respond after more than 400 skate boarders take over hollywood boulevard. find out what they were protesting next. "fox & friends" begins right now. ♪ >> good sunday morning, everybody, not so much for the new york yankees. we'll tell you why in just a bit. not just a loss on the field, alisyn, a loss of historic proportions for them in terms of the leader, the the heart and soul of that have franchise for the last decade. >> alisyn: i can't wait to here that wow. >> clayton: and meanwhile, we've been following of course the investigation or the lack of investigation into the benghazi attack in libya, the terrorist attack and of course, now an investigation launched and announced on friday evening, and last night the mother of slain state department official sean smith on fox news channel speaking to judge janine pirro about this and the lack of i
on congressman ryan's positions on the issues, and governor romney has embraced at least everything i can see. i don't want to say anything in the debate that's not completely accurate. >> reporter: so what are the candidates' biggest strengths? analysts say for ryan it's his ability to speak in detail about policy issues. for biden, his ease in talking about how national policies affect ordinary people. here is congressman ryan's take on biden. >> he's fast on the cuff, he's a witty guy, he knows who he is and he's been doing this for 40 years. you're not going to rattle joe biden. joe is very good on the attack. joe is very good at trying to confuse the issues. >> reporter: when it comes to advice for the candidates? >> try to be comfortable in your skin, be rested, look into the camera, smile from time to time. >> reporter: and a little humor always helps. >> i can see my wife and i think she's thinking, gee, i wish you would go out into the private sector. i'm goi >> i'm going to try to help you do that, joe. >> athena jones. >> vice president biden and congressman paul ryan get their turn t
romney performed well. people are going to say paul ryan should perform well. looking ahead, what does the president need to do or say to come out strong in the next debate without appearing aloof? >> well, first of all, how about just don't be aloof? you're supposed to be this huge inspiring leader. maybe try to bring a little zest in your voice. you're trying to save the world. have a red bull before you get out there. obama has the caffeine advantage over mitt romney who won't touch the stuff for religious reasons. exploit that advantage. also, perhaps barack obama can not take little naps every time that romney speaks. you can see it right there. he's like -- every time he would say one thing, he'd be like, well, romney wants to -- wants $5 trillion in tax cuts mostly for the wealthy, and romney is like, no, i don't, and obama is like okay, i guess you don't. maybe stick a little bit with your argument, and then my last big tip for him, the part of the debate you're allowed to prepare in advance, the closing statement, actually have one ready because it was a very uninspiring closi
, not vice presidents, but romney has momentum, bit of a breeze at his back. can paul ryan continue building that momentum or could joe biden be more passionate than the president in the first presidential debate and stop it? >> let's talk about the numbers, john. mitt romney still getting post debate bounce. you can't say any more that debates don't matter. the new cnn poll, poll of polls, mitt romney has a slight lead with likely voters, 48% to 47%. his performance certainly showed that you can't say it doesn't matter anymore. there is no bigger swing state than ohio, where you are. >> reporter: the history tells you no republican has ever been elected president without winning the state of ohio. can you do the math and have romney win without this state? yes. is it likely? no. before the debate some polls had him down as many as nine points in ohio. new cnn poll row leased last night has him down four, 51-47. another group, american research group show ed romney up a point in ohio. no question. just like in the national polls, a bit of a boost. romney is up in the suburbs, up among indepe
romney and paul ryan. -- it is a high because of medicare and it is a tight because of their romney and paul ryan. >> we would love to have obama come up to that district. guest: i would love to have mitt romney get to that district. guest: i don't think either one of them will go to this district. chris gibson has a good chance and a good independent record. guest: he voted with the tea party. caller: i'm serious that the mad hatter's and the tea party are holding our government hostage. we have shovel-ready infrastructure jobs that are ready to go what we need that money to create good career ladder jobs. the tea party does not -- does not believe in government anyway. they should not be running for elected office. to c $20 million account of money to flip state elections, i don't know if it's in iowa or ohio, this is incredible. they are only allow $100,000 for a campaign in england. host: what about the money? >> we're talking about a shovel ready jobs? are these the same struggle ready jobs obama said he could not find after spending $800 billion on stimulus? more government sp
. god bless him, he fought for our country. romney and ryan, first off, let's get something clear here once and for all, as far as the sequestered cuts go, it is not obama's thing, okay? it was congress and paul ryan's thing because they were too immature to act like grown-ups and make a deal, ok? obama had nothing to do with it. it was paul ryan and congress. guest: i do think that the one of the issues that one of the -- that people will be basing their vote on is the question of leadership at large and that is why you heard a lot about leadership from mitt romney and what kind of role obama is projecting and by extension what he is doing at home in guiding in shaping how we use natural resources. although the polls might not registered significance to a particular foreign policy issue, when it comes to the broader question of leadership, that is part of what people will be casting their vote on. there is an opportunity, as the mitt romney team has identified, to suggest criticism of president obama as a leader. host: president obama was at a fund-raiser in california last night. [vi
away from the pro romney story line. a lot of pressure on ryan not to screw things up now that romney has some momentum. >> i think elections are one big cake and every ingredient matters. >> that's true. >> it's to determine what specific things actually make a difference. day in and day out we talk about these things having monumental effect. it's hard to know in hindsight what matter. >> you should watch all of it right here on cnn. stay with cnn for the vice presidential debate on thursday night. our coverage begins at 7:00 p.m. >> let's get you up to date on this morning's top stories. jerry sandusky faces life behind bars when he's sentenced in just over two hours. the former penn state football coach released an audiotape from prison yesterday proclaiming his innocence. he also blamed his child sex abuse convictions on his victims and what he called a well-orchestrated conspiracy. >> the nobel prize for physics have been awarded. serge haroche and david wineland for their work in measuring and manipulating individual particles by preserve their quantum nature. >> the owner of a
and discuss. hopefully whether we do that debate and discussion, we'll do it with, you know, mitt romney and congressman ryan that won't walk away from a whole host of policy decisions in the middle of the debate. >> understanding, though, the president has to sort of go after mitt romney and engage and fight with him a little bit on the debate stage. is that something you all are bringing to the table? >> well, look, i don't want to give away everything. obviously, we want a nice crowd for the debate. i think each candidate has to be very much on their toes. what i mean by na is president obama and vice president biden, for watching mitt romney and paul reasyan do as they've done throughout this campaign, which is walk away from what they talked about days earlier. we got a great example yesterday. mitt romney goes to "the des moines register" board saying there's nothing in his agenda to restrict a woman's right to choose, which we know after having said in debates he's happy to sign a legislation that ended all abortions. we understand there's a mitt romney you see pop up in public, p
ticket mitt romney and paul ryan host a rally in lancaster, ohio. and we'll have that live for you as well, starting at 5:40 p.m. eastern, also on c-span. >> can we focus on the issues and not the personalities and the mud? i think there is a need if we could take a poll here with the folks from gallup, perhaps. i think there is a real need at this point to focus on the need. >> how do you respond, how do you gentleman respond to -- >> i agree with him. >> i think in general let's talk about these, let's talk about these issues. let's talk about the programs, but in the presidency, a lot goes into it. caring goes into it. that is not particularly specific. strength goes into it in, that is not specific. standing up against aggression. that is not specific in terms of a program. this is what a president has to do. so in principle though, i'll take your point and think we ought to discuss child care or, whatever else it is. >> and you two? >> ross had his hand up. >> no hedges, if, and or buts i will take the pledge. the american people want to talk about issues and not tabloid journ
them? the back and forth between vice president joe biden and congressman paul ryan. let's give you some of the back and forth resaw on the recession, stimulus and sanctions on iran. >> these are the most crippling sanctions in the history of sanctions. period. period. when governor romney's asked about it, he said we've got to keep these sanctions. when you say, well, you're talking about doing more. are you going to go to war? is that what you want to do? >> you want to prevent war. >> interesting thing is how they are going to prevent war, how they are going to prevent war if they say there's nothing more that they say we should do than what we've already done. >> i'm not allowed to show letters, but go on our website. he sent me two letters saying, by the way, can you send me some stimulus money for companies here in the state of wisconsin? we sent millions of dollars. you know why he said-- >> you did ask for stimulus money, correct? >> sure, he did. >> on two occasions, we advocated for constituents applying for grants. that's what we do for all constituents. >> i love that. >
here. and, of course, the romney campaign emphasizing that paul ryan is a guy who hasn't had a debate, maybe since high school. so he's debating against joe biden. >> debated -- we've tried to debate ryan here and we've seen him debate with other people, and he's -- i don't know. >> eamon, what about ohio, though? we've talked with chuck todd about this. he sees a way to win without ohio. but basically have to win eight or nine other states. so it's a much more complicated road to the white house if you don't win ohio. so he had said -- he told us a week or two ago that romney would have to make a decision as to whether the pull out of ohio and go for the other states. >> on a couple of polls. >> yeah, it's off the table at this point. >> that's got to be off the table right now. ohio is the linchpin for everything in this campaign. that's why the president was there yesterday. you saw the president leading in o-h-i-o cheer. he needs the college kids to come through for him. he needs the urban cities in ohio to turn out with big, big numbers. otherwise this thing gets very tricky for
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